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Sammy (Shmuli) Lederer's avatar

There’s a bit more of a journey here. It’s something like: “Behave in elementary school so you get into a good high school, and behave then so you get into a good beis Medresh, and continue behaving so you can marry a women who reminds you of your family.

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Baruch Hasofer's avatar

The typical guy coming out of the army has no marketable job skills aside from cleaning a MAG (which is why they generally work as security guards,) and no real ability to compete in the sexual free for all of modern society. The availability of girl soldiers in your typical fly infested Jordan River Valley dump of a base is... overstated, especially if you're in one of the religious units-it's much easier to sneak into Ramat Gan or Petach Tikva from Bnei Brak, if you're so inclined (and you won't be exhausted from training and pulling guard duty.)

The issue with the army is that it's an environment where it's easier to become a shkutz. You're surrounded and led by the products of trash Israeli secular society. Their speech and behavior are what they are. And you can't get away from them. It's like jail in that sense. Given that many 18 year old Haredim don't have much between the ears and have just spent 18 years in a system whose main challenge is to deal with their general boredom, it's a real problem.

Nobody will be fighting an actual war against these guys. Any excesses will be dealt with legally, probably by their own community (quite a few Haredi cops out there.)

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